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I think most of you already know this conversation, if not please read it!

From: rense.com "A Phone Call to the FED"
http://www.rense.com/general29/ringring.htm



The following is a conversation with Mr. Ron Supinski of the Public Information Department of the San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank. This is an account of that conversation.

CALLER - Mr. Supinski, does my country own the Federal Reserve System?

MR. SUPINSKI - We are an agency of the government.

CALLER - That's not my question. Is it owned by my country?

MR. SUPINSKI - It is an agency of the government created by congress.

CALLER - Is the Federal Reserve a Corporation?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - Does my government own any of the stock in the Federal Reserve?

MR. SUPINSKI - No, it is owned by the member banks.

CALLER - Are the member banks private corporations?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - Are Federal Reserve Notes backed by anything?

MR. SUPINSKI-Yes, by the assets of the Federal Reserve but, primarily by the power of congress to lay tax on the people.

CALLER - Did you say, by the power to collect taxes is what backs Federal Reserve Notes?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - What are the total assets of the Federal Reserve?

MR. SUPINSKI - The San Francisco Bank has $36 Billion in assets.

CALLER - What are these assets composed of?

MR. SUPINSKI - Gold, the Federal Reserve Bank itself and government securities.

CALLER - What value does the Federal Reserve Bank carry gold per oz. on their books?

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't have that information but the San Francisco Bank has $1.6 billion in gold.

CALLER - Are you saying the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco has $1.6 billion in gold, the bank itself and the balance of the assets is government securities?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes.

CALLER - Where does the Federal Reserve get Federal Reserve Notes from?

MR. SUPINSKI - They are authorized by the Treasury.

CALLER - How much does the Federal Reserve pay for a $10 Federal Reserve Note?

MR. SUPINSKI - Fifty to seventy cents.

CALLER - How much do they pay for a $100.00 Federal Reserve Note?

MR. SUPINSKI - The same fifty to seventy cents.

CALLER - To pay only fifty cents for a $100.00 is a tremendous gain, isn't it?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - According to the US Treasury, the Federal Reserve pays $20.60 per 1,000 denomination or a little over two cents for a $100.00 bill, is that correct?

MR. SUPINSKI - That is probably close.

CALLER - Doesn't the Federal Reserve use the Federal Reserve Notes that cost about two cents each to purchase US Bonds from the government?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, but there is more to it than that.

CALLER - Basically, that is what happens?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, basically you are correct.

CALLER - How many Federal Reserve Notes are in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI - $263 billion and we can only account for a small percentage.

CALLER - Where did they go?

MR. SUPINSKI - Peoples mattress, buried in their back yards and illegal drug money.

CALLER - Since the debt is payable in Federal Reserve Notes, how can the $4 trillion national debt be paid-off with the total Federal Reserve Notes in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know.

CALLER - If the Federal Government would collect every Federal Reserve Note in circulation would it be mathematically possible to pay the $4 trillion national debt?

MR. SUPINSKI - No

CALLER - Am I correct when I say, $1 deposited in a member bank $8 can be lent out through Fractional Reserve Policy?

MR. SUPINSKI - About $7.

CALLER - Correct me if I am wrong but, $7 of additional Federal Reserve Notes were never put in circulation. But, for lack of better words were "created out of thin air " in the form of credits and the two cents per denomination were not paid either. In other words, the Federal Reserve Notes were not physically printed but, in reality were created by a journal entry and lent at interest. Is that correct?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - Is that the reason there are only $263 billion Federal Reserve Notes in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI - That is part of the reason.

CALLER - Am I mistaking that when the Federal Reserve Act was passed (on Christmas Eve) in 1913, it transferred the power to coin and issue our nation's money and to regulate the value thereof from Congress to a Private corporation. And my country now borrows what should be our own money from the Federal Reserve (a private corporation) plus interest. Is that correct and the debt can never be paid off under the current money system of country?

MR. SUPINSKI - Basically, yes.

CALLER - I smell a rat, do you?

MR. SUPINSKI - I am sorry, I can't answer that, I work here.

CALLER - Has the Federal Reserve ever been independently audited?

MR. SUPINSKI - We are audited.

CALLER - Why is there a current House Resolution 1486 calling for a complete audit of the Federal Reserve by the GAO and why is the Federal Reserve resisting?

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know.

CALLER - Does the Federal Reserve regulate the value of Federal Reserve Notes and interest rates?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - Explain how the Federal Reserve System can be Constitutional if, only the Congress of the US, which comprises of the Senate and the House of representatives has the power to coin and issue our money supply and regulate the value thereof? [Article 1 Section 1 and Section 8] Nowhere, in the Constitution does it give Congress the power or authority to transfer any powers granted under the Constitution to a private corporation or, does it?

MR. SUPINSKI - I am not an expert on constitutional law. I can refer you to our legal department.

CALLER - I can tell you I have read the Constitution. It does NOT provide that any power granted can be transferred to a private corporation. Doesn't it specifically state, all other powers not granted are reserved to the States and to the citizens? Does that mean to a private corporation?

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't think so, but we were created by Congress.

CALLER - Would you agree it is our country and it should be our money as provided by our Constitution?

MR. SUPINSKI - I understand what you are saying.

CALLER - Why should we borrow our own money from a private consortium of bankers? Isn't this why we had a revolution, created a separate sovereign nation and a Bill of Rights?

MR. SUPINSKI - (Declined to answer).

CALLER - Has the Federal Reserve ever been declared constitutional by the Supreme Court?

MR. SUPINSKI - I believe there has been court cases on the matter.

CALLER - Have there been Supreme Court Cases?

MR. SUPINSKI - I think so, but I am not sure.

CALLER - Didn't the Supreme Court declare unanimously in A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. vs. US and Carter vs. Carter Coal Co. the corporative-state arrangement an unconstitutional delegation of legislative power? ["The power conferred is the power to regulate. This is legislative delegation in its most obnoxious form; for it is not even delegation to an official or an official body, presumptively disinterested, but to private persons." Carter vs. Carter Coal Co...]

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know, I can refer you to our legal department.

CALLER - Isn't the current money system a house of cards that must fall because, the debt can mathematically never be paid-off?

MR. SUPINSKI - It appears that way. I can tell you have been looking into this matter and are very knowledgeable. However, we do have a solution.

CALLER - What is the solution?

MR. SUPINSKI - The Debit Card.

CALLER - Do you mean under the EFT Act (Electronic Funds Transfer)? Isn't that very frightening, when one considers the capabilities of computers? It would provide the government and all it's agencies, including the Federal Reserve such information as: You went to the gas station @ 2:30 and bought $10.00 of unleaded gas @ $1.41 per gallon and then you went to the grocery store @ 2:58 and bought bread, lunch meat and milk for $12.32 and then went to the drug store @ 3:30 and bought cold medicine for $5.62. In other words, they would know where we go, when we went, how much we paid, how much the merchant paid and how much profit he made. Under the EFT they will literally know everything about us. Isn't that kind of scary?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, it makes you wonder.

CALLER - I smell a GIANT RAT that has overthrown my constitution. Aren't we paying tribute in the form of income taxes to a consortium of private bankers?

MR. SUPINSKI - I can't call it tribute, it is interest.

CALLER - Haven't all elected officials taken an oath of office to preserve and defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic? Isn't the Federal Reserve a domestic enemy?

MR. SUPINSKI - I can't say that.

CALLER - Our elected officials and members of the Federal Reserve are guilty of aiding and abetting the overthrowing of my Constitution and that is treason. Isn't the punishment of treason death?

MR. SUPINSKI - I believe so.

CALLER - Thank you for your time and information and if I may say so, I think you should take the necessary steps to protect you and your family and withdraw your money from the banks before the collapse, I am.

MR. SUPINSKI - It doesn't look good.

CALLER - May God have mercy on the souls who are behind this unconstitutional and criminal act called the Federal Reserve. When the ALMIGHTY MASS awakens to this giant hoax, they will not take it with a grain of salt. It has been a pleasure talking to you and I thank you for your time. I hope you will take my advice before it does collapse.

MR. SUPINSKI - Unfortunately, it does not look good.

CALLER - Have a good day and thanks for your time.

MR. SUPINSKI - Thanks for calling.

9/11 was the trigger event for what we have been seeing the last couple of years: The acceleration of the process towards the New World Order. For many people, including myself, 9/11 was and is a wake-up call to recognize the New World Order Agenda.
Here is a list of enlightening films and clips.



Loose Change Final Cut






Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State






9/11 Ripple Effect






9/11 Press for Truth






9/11 Mysteries






911 The Road to Tyranny






911: The greatest lie ever sold






WTC 7 – Pull it by Larry Silverstein






9/11 Inside Job – Was Thermate being used?






9/11 Video about Pentagon & Pittsburgh Crash

If it comes to Secret Socities, Symbolism, the New World Order, Astro-Theology and occult knowledge in general, Jordan Maxwell surely is a veteran. He carries 50 years of research on his back. He describes himself as “an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge”.
Here are some webstreams, starting with his famous “Basic Slide Presentation” from 1993.

Basic Slide Presentation:






Matrix of Power:






Toxic Religion:

Magic dominates the World:

Jordan Maxwell exposes the Illuminati:

Interview featuring Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, Jim Marrs:

Michael Tsarion talks about Common Purpose and the Fabian Society, which is a very interesting group.

Wikipedia Link: Fabian Society

They took the name from the Roman general Quintus Fabius Maximus. This general had a special battle strategy: Instead of attacking the enemy head-on he worked with a slow, very gradual step-by-step -tactic towards the goal. A battle of endurance. This method is also being used today in politics. The goal is the New World Order. In order to condition the people without provoking them, the elite cannot take too big steps towards their goal. So it's a chain of steady little steps.

"9/11 was only the tip of the iceberg! From documentary filmmaker William Lewis comes a bone chilling documentary on the spying, tracking and control of the American public. Posted by BridgeStoneMediaGroup.com Parental Guidance Suggested."

I just finished watching this film...and right now I just want to help spreading it...i hope it'll have a big impact on the masses to wake up!

I think most of you heard about the shooting incident in Germany by a 17-year old teenager.
You can read the whole story here.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29630925?GT1=43001

Yesterday evening I watched a discussion on TV about this tragedy and like always after such incidents, the issue of shoot-‘em-ups (like Counterstrike) raised.
One person in this discussion said: “These kind of games are matter of taste.”

But I got stuck with the question: Why would someone actually play these kind of games?

I estimate that about 90% of the people who will read this already played such a game or at least know such games. I am no exception. But as I mentioned, I was pondering about why somebody would buy a game with the aim to kill people.
Ok, it isn’t real. You really don’t kill anybody. It is a virtual reality. But through these games a murder is simulated because the game is a simulation. We say: ”War is such a terrible thing.” But war games like ‘Call of Duty’ are fun, because they are only a simulation. Virtual Reality seems to be a cool thing – You as the protagonist can do things that you would never do in reality – leaving your morality behind.

Games simulating war, simulating bloodshed, are considered to be entertainment.

But still: Why are people enjoying the simulated act of killing others?
Does it come from the satisfaction to decide over life and death? Meaning, is pleasure felt when someone presses a button and a virtual bullet hits a virtual head? Because now the player feels more powerful or mightier.
But is this sane?

A Quote comes to mind:

"Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it."
Mark Twain

Let's start with Prince Philip of England, it seems he has to say a lot about this subject:

"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

"I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the "cull'' to the size of the surplus population."

"For example, the World Health Organization Project, designed to eradicate malaria from Sri Lanka in the postwar years, achieved its purpose. But the problem today is that Sri Lanka must feed three times as many mouths, find three times as many jobs, provide three times the housing, energy, schools, hospitals and land for settlement in order to maintain the same standards. Little wonder the natural environment and wildlife in Sri Lanka has suffered. The fact [is] ... that the best-intentioned aid programs are at least partially responsible for the problems."

"What has been described as the "balance of nature'' is simply nature's system of self-limitation. Fertility and breeding success create the surpluses after allowing for the replacement of the losses. Predation, climatic variation, disease, starvation--and in the case of the inappropriately named Homo sapiens, wars and terrorism--are the principal means by which population numbers are kept under some sort of control."

"I suspect that the single most important gift of progress to conservation has been the development of human contraception techniques."

"So long as they [birth control methods] ... remained taboo subjects the chances of making any impression on the human population explosion were that much more remote."


Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of the UN Earth Summit, June 1992:

“Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilisations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?”


Lord Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society, 1953:

“At present the population of the world is increasing at about 58,000 per diem. War, so far, has had no very great effect on this increase, which continued throughout each of the world wars…. War … has hitherto been disappointing in this respect … but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full…. The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of it? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other peoples'….”


Dr John Reid speaking with Robyn Williams on ABC radio, 10 December, 2006:

"One human way to reduce the population might be to put something in the water, a virus that would be specific to the human reproductive system and would make a substantial proportion of the population infertile. Perhaps a virus that would knock out the genes that produce certain hormones necessary for conception. ... A triage approach will be necessary so that scarce medical resources go to those who can contribute most to the long-term viability of the planet. Consequently, many middle-aged-to-elderly people will die uncomfortable deaths. Not every problem is solvable."


Jacques Cousteau(Co-recipient in 1977 of the International Environmental Prize awarded by the United Nations for outstanding contributions in the field of the environment),quoted from UNESCO Courier, November 1991:

“This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it.”


David Brower, first executive director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute:

“Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. …All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”


John Davis, editor of, Earth First! Journal:

“I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”


Dr Lyall Watson, anthropologist, Commissioner for the International Whaling Commission, as quoted in the Financial Times, 15 July 1995:

"[Cannibalism is a] “radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation."


Dr Lamont Cole, Professor of Ecology, Cornell University, as quoted by Elizabeth Whelan in her book, Toxic Terror:

“To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem.”


Merton Lambert, former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation, quoted from Harpeth Journal, Dec. 18, 1962:

“The world has cancer, and that cancer is man.”


Quotes are taken from:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2045123/posts
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu12.htm

For further reading and more quotes also visit
http://www.infowars.com/eugenics-quotes-from-lofty-ideals-to-highly-centralized-population-control-run-by-psychopathic-maniacs/

For those of you who still believe in global warming: I encourage you to watch this docu, which was broadcast in 1990(!). Almost 20 years later the debate is still going on and children are learning about the big problem of "global warming" in schools. Well, for some there isn't even a debate about it.

Detailed description:

"This documentary is a good companion to the latest documentary,"The Great Global Warming Swindle" recently shown on CH 4 UK and is available on Google video. The hoax of Global Warming / Green House was exposed 17 years ago by CH 4 UK in this documentary entitled Green House Conspiracy. Those who subscribe to the rubbish trotted out by Al Gore and his mindless followers are not new they were the same arse clowns who were telling us we were all going to freeze to death 30 years ago."

"Red Ice Creations Short film about The Holy Grail and Longevity Science, Artificial Intelligence, Cloning, DNA, Methuselah, Craig J. Venter, Human Genome Project, The Raelians, Dolly The Sheep, De Grey, The Grey's & The Singularity."